tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8408120528606484509.post1770172633246667073..comments2023-05-01T09:31:51.497-03:00Comments on Pagálnikèlikh gàQadóshumashumámrakoi: Tekumeláni Naval Warfare - one week onPrincipe dell'Estriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18090298455153620573noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8408120528606484509.post-70474518747416162942016-02-17T13:40:59.290-04:002016-02-17T13:40:59.290-04:00I'm looking forward to both projects, and agre...I'm looking forward to both projects, and agree that a monograph on monasteries would be very interesting!Tallgeesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16045006122540505779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8408120528606484509.post-87231238413989401922016-02-15T07:22:28.107-04:002016-02-15T07:22:28.107-04:00:-):-)phfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05500880186402356662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8408120528606484509.post-88099454946629218942016-02-14T22:43:54.526-04:002016-02-14T22:43:54.526-04:00"away from the temples"
I think you are..."away from the temples"<br /><br />I think you are right, and that's the key to Tsolyani monasticism. Religious but "away from the temples." Not unlike Earthly monasteries. There are pretty cool implications from that. <br /><br />As for the Professor not sweating the details, I agree with you again. Where he did sweat the details, we don't have much room to contribute. Where he didn't, well, you have bought his Tekumel now make it yours, right?Principe dell'Estriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18090298455153620573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8408120528606484509.post-48866839427917913782016-02-14T22:28:03.380-04:002016-02-14T22:28:03.380-04:00I get the impression he didn't sweat the detai...I get the impression he didn't sweat the details. I mean, it doesn't matter as its Your Tekumel, but I suspect a monastery is just a place where male (and female) priests live, work and study away from the Temples. Didn't he make some comment about the use of the term in reference to the gender equality.phfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05500880186402356662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8408120528606484509.post-84466611952756285722016-02-14T19:24:43.417-04:002016-02-14T19:24:43.417-04:00Howard, Its a good question. In fact, it is the ce...Howard, Its a good question. In fact, it is the central question, really, and part of what gave me such difficulty.. I guess the short answer is no, a monastery does not house a group of priests. A monastery houses a group of monks. Monks may or may not be priests (generally not), and their interests have often been defined in specific opposition to priesthoods, at least when their orders are first formed. Eventually, they may often become a part of the religious establishment, of course, but monastic orders often begin as a sort of back-to-basics anti-priesthood movement. <br /><br />As a kid, I got a religious education, two of the schools I went to were run by a religious order and they had monasteries attached. They weren't churches, they were monasteries. None of the brothers were priests, although they did have (and required) access to ritual priests when needed. In any case, there was a difference.<br /><br />The Professor also drew distinctions here. There is a better term for a priestly establishment: "temple." He used it a lot. But he referred to some religious establishments as "temples" and others as "monasteries." What did he really mean by that? In English, as I say, the words he used have specific and quite different meanings. I can't believe he was ignorant of those differences. To be honest, just between you and me, I suspect he used the word "monastery" mostly for atmospheric effect. "Hey we have temples, gotta have some monasteries in there too, cuz it sounds cool." I don't think he ever articulated how monastery and temple differed in a Tsolyani context. But I am sure he was aware of the difference. And even though it was a disctinction I don't think he was interested in exploring in detail, I would like to. Partly because other information he provides in the canon rather indirectly points the way to exactly how something like monasteries would contrast with temples, and function differently from temples in Tsolyani sects.Principe dell'Estriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18090298455153620573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8408120528606484509.post-22196925140218934492016-02-14T17:01:52.348-04:002016-02-14T17:01:52.348-04:00Aren't monasteries just groups of priests...th...Aren't monasteries just groups of priests...the term being used for the lack of anything better? phfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05500880186402356662noreply@blogger.com